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Interview with
Charles Phillips:
The Future of Information Technology at Vortext 2004
Charles Phillips
was interviewed about the future of IT by author Geoffrey Moore at
Vortext 2004, a summit of top executives that was held October 5, 2004.
Charles answered a number of questions about the future and Oracle's vision. |
Q: What about
MySQL? Is it a threat to Oracle's database business?
Charles Phillips: It's a commercial
version of open-source database software. If we're all in the transportation
industry, then Oracle is the 747 and MySQL is the car that gets you to the
airport. There are 125 open source databases in the market. That's good. Oracle
customers move from MySQL to Oracle when they are ready for more robust
software.
Q: What about
Microsoft?
CP: They are a real competitor but
our task is to focus on providing the Oracle databases on Windows at the right
price point.
Q: Turning to
SOAs (service-oriented architectures). What of the concept of modularizing
layers? Is the database going to be different?
CP: We have been evolving
the Oracle database, and certain discrete functions have become modules. But
developing an SOA architecture has not been the purpose. We view SOA
differently. We've done focus groups and spent time with customers to see how
they look at it. They see it as an extension to their current infrastructure.
We're not going to extremes like our competitors.
Q: So what is
your view of the stack?
CP: Well, first of all, we called it a "stack" way before anyone else did, and
we have the advantage of engineering our software to work together as a stack.
The advantage is engineering common services that work together across the
layers, e.g., security, systems management, etc. To oversee our "stack"
development, we have a CTO function. He and his team meet each Monday to review
the common services needs and to ensure everything is leveraged and working
seamlessly. It results in more predictable, higher quality software. We have 12
different features that have been optimized for the stack.
Q: What about
the Application Server layer? This is where BEA, websphere, Sun and SAP are
playing. Does Oracle's Application Server not have market share or is that a
misperception?
CP: We are No. 1 on UNIX and
the fastest growing application server in the market for several years running.
According to industry analysts, we have 19% share; BEA is not that far ahead. We
have 13,000 applications customer using our application server. (Note: As of
Oracle's first quarter in fiscal year 2005, Oracle had 22,620 customers, a large
majority of whom are running Oracle Applications as well as Oracle Application
Server, as Charles emphasizes in his answer.)
Q: What about
independent companies using your application server?
CP: Our application server can be
used by anyone, but the advantages of the shared services I spoke about won't be
there. So for example, pooling and automatic failover to our database isn't
available because those are common services that have been engineered between
our database and application server.
Q: What about
when SAP works with you?
CP: Yes, customers use SAP,
Netweaver and the Oracle database. But SAP doesn't optimize for our database.
They use it as a file server. Because we have the full stack, we can make smart
decisions about where functions exist.
Q: Is there no
longer room for third party ISVs?
CP: ISVs will have to make
different decisions. They will need to pick a stack and focus on areas that they
do well.
Q: What about
the collaboration market?
CP: ISVs can embed our
functionality within their applications. Some ISVs already do that ? they
leverage what we call the Oracle information architecture. Our collaboration
suite is excellent for helping companies with compliance issues by the way.
Customers have traded out 200 exchange servers for one Oracle instance to help
with compliance.
Q: Mike Volpe (SVP
& General Manager, Cisco Systems) earlier said that more and more communications
is based on non-structured data. Is that still considered a transaction? How
does Oracle view this area?
CP: We are seeing more and
more data that is non-relational. We haven't met a data type that we couldn't
handle. Our vision is that the database becomes a file system. Microsoft shares
that vision. One of the key advantages of putting this information in a database
is the search capability. For example, if CIOs need find files, they will be
able to conduct a search. All information in all kinds of forms is searchable
and comes up. The format doesn't matter. And, you can easily migrate content to
a database ? files are easily saved into the database using an easy-to-use
interface.
Q: When you talk
to CIOs, what are the common conversations on architecture?
CP: We hear, "Don't rush me onto an
SOA architecture. We need a standard architecture and integration on standards."
We also are asked "Does Grid work?" We get a lot of questions about the benefits
of grid on Intel vs. continuing to buy big SMPs. |